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User:GrimKaiker

2010-04-26T03:02:07Z

GrimKaiker: New page: I'm a person with a hat.

I'm a person with a hat.

Engineering Commander

2010-04-26T02:56:44Z

GrimKaiker: Redirecting to Tech Director

#REDIRECT [[Tech Director]]

'''Engineering Commander''' was a new position created for the [[2009-10]] year for [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]]. The position is remarkably similar to the pre-[[2004-05|2004]] position of [[Tech Director]], and the Engineering Commander is responsible for the creation and maintenance of [[alpha]] [[Habitat]] systems and their [[beta]] [[Habitat Systems|counterparts]].

When questioned as to what his most frequent duties as Engineering Commander, [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] responded "I build and repair things, mostly."

==Reclassification==
The position Engineering Commander was modified by the [[2010 Proposal to Change the Hierarchy]], transferring its authority and mandate to the position of [[Tech Director]]. Barring any further resurgeance of this position, this reclassification will mean that [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] is the only Engineering Commander in [[Sim History|Spacesim history]].

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Director of Technology and Engineering

2010-04-26T02:56:09Z

GrimKaiker: Merging E. Commander into this as a subheading, less redundancy

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The '''Tech Director''' is a new position made for the [[2010-11]] year. Tech Director replaces the [[Engineering Commander]] position as it has the same duties, although it has less power. The Tech Director's duties will be to design and aid in the building of [[Beta]] systems.

==Engineering Commander==
The Engineering Commander was a new position created for the [[2009-10]] year for [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]]. The position was remarkably similar to the pre-[[2004-05|2004]] position of [[Tech Director]], and the Engineering Commander was responsible for the creation and maintenance of [[alpha]] [[Habitat]] systems and their [[beta]] [[Habitat Systems|counterparts]].

When questioned as to what his most frequent duties as Engineering Commander, [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] responded "I build and repair things, mostly."

The position Engineering Commander was modified by the [[2010 Proposal to Change the Hierarchy]], transferring its mandate to the position of [[Tech Director]]. Barring any further resurgeance of this position, this reclassification will mean that [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] is the only Engineering Commander in [[Sim History|Spacesim history]].

Director of Technology and Engineering

2010-04-26T02:54:54Z

GrimKaiker:

{{stub}}

The '''Tech Director''' is a new position made for the [[2010-11]] year. Tech Director replaces the [[Engineering Commander]] position as it has the same duties, although it has less power. The Tech Director's duties will be to design and aid in the building of [[Beta]] systems.

==Engineering Commander==
The Engineering Commander was a new position created for the [[2009-10]] year for [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]]. The position was remarkably similar to the pre-[[2004-05|2004]] position of [[Tech Director]], and the Engineering Commander was responsible for the creation and maintenance of [[alpha]] [[Habitat]] systems and their [[beta]] [[Habitat Systems|counterparts]].

When questioned as to what his most frequent duties as Engineering Commander, [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] responded "I build and repair things, mostly."

The position Engineering Commander was modified by the [[2010 Proposal to Change the Hierarchy]], transferring its authority and mandate to the position of [[Tech Director]]. Barring any further resurgeance of this position, this reclassification will mean that [[Matthew Farkas-Dyck]] is the only Engineering Commander in [[Sim History|Spacesim history]].

Simulator Loft

2010-04-26T02:43:51Z

GrimKaiker: /* Contents */

[[Image:SimmieLoft.png|right|frame|The Simulator Loft.]]The '''Simulator Loft''' is where the [[Simulators]] keep their computers and tools, and where they congregate to cause disasters. It is the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzanine_%28architecture%29 mezzanine] area of the current [[440 Albert Street]] facilities.

==Contents==
The Simulator Loft houses the following objects:
*The patch panel and network hub that services the [[Spacesim network|network]] at [[440 Albert]], along with a number of network cables
*A large bookcase housing not only books about science but ancient Spacesim records
*A pile of mats and one bunk formerly from the [[Hawking II]] for simulators to sleep on during the [[Mission]], when they are allowed to.
*A printer for FU and associated manuals and drivers
*The computers FU, A.C. Clarke, Nebula, Temeraire, and Cassini, found on the [[List of Computers]]
*A series of light switches that control the power to the individual rooms of the [[habitat]]. It is important to note that the computers, the fridge and the microwave run on a seperate circuit (an emergency backup generator in the [[Beta]] reality), and although the light switches can cut power to lights and outlets in the habitat they cannot affect these crucial systems. One switch each controls the lights and plugs in the [[Interlock]], the [[Longhouse]], and [[Command and Control]], and a fourth switch controls the [[Hotlab]], [[Engineering Closet]], [[Airlock]], and the outlets in the [[Bathroom]]. There is no way to turn off the lights in the washroom. A fifth switch turns all the other switches on.
*A television that can switch between any feed from any camera inside the habitat
*4 chairs

[[Category:Albert Street]]

Mission Alpha

2010-04-20T17:32:03Z

GrimKaiker: /* Mini-Missions */

A '''Mission Alpha''' is a dry run for the year's [[Mission|Main Mission]].

==Historical==
Missions Alpha were typically run about 1 month before the actual mission, lasting about 4–6 hours in duration. The purpose was to test
out all equipment, and discover any problems or areas lacking proper planning. It also was an excellent opportunity to test the level
of training for both [[Astronauts]] and [[Mission Control]] staff. This practice was first started by Mission Commanders [[Daniel Kekez]] and [[Jamie Rosen]] for the [[1997-98|Jupiter 1998 mission]].

In the [[2001-02 | 2001-02 year]], a [[Mission Beta]] was run. The Mission Alpha occured while the [[Habitat]] was still under construction, and as such a second dry run was needed closer to the mission date.

==Mini-Missions==
Mini-missions were historically an [[Elementary Education Program|EEP]] activity for older classes. In recent years, Space Sim has taken to calling the dry-runs [[Training Mission]]s instead of ''Mission Alpha''.

==List of Missions Alpha==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Year
! Mission Name
! Destination
|-
| [[1997-98]]
| Mission Alpha
| Unknown
|-
| [[2001-02]]
| Mission Alpha
| Unknown
|-
| [[2001-02]]
| [[Mission Beta]]
| Unknown
|-
| [[2005-06]]
| [[Daedalus]]
| Venus
|-
| [[2006-07]]
| Mission Alpha
| Pluto
|}

Chen-tao LaRochelle

2010-04-17T19:43:51Z

GrimKaiker:

{{member | picture = [[Image:Chen-tao --Magic Hand Fire.jpg|300px]]
|Name = Chen-tao LaRochelle
|grade = [[List of Spacesim Members#2010|11]]
|school = [[Lisgar Collegiate]]
|curpos = N/A
|forpos = N/A
}}

'''Chen-tao LaRochelle''' is currently a student at [[Lisgar Collegiate Institute]] and is a member of [[Spacesim]]. He joined during his eleventh grade year.

==Daedalus 2010==

In a [[Science Floor#Place of Meeting|meeting]] to decide the name of the mission, Chen-tao suggested "Daedalus", having the starship F-304 Daedalus from the show Stargate: Atlantis in mind. After three rounds of voting, the name somehow survived and christened the mission. During the mission, Chen-tao participated in [[Mission Control|MC]] and occupied various functions, mainly [[LOGS]]. He also kept an HTML personal log available on [[List of Computers#Mission Control Computers|C3-PO]] at [[440]]. He was noted in the court-martial logs for having used important multimedia airwaves to presumably pass messages between [[Becca Kalinger]] and [[Christian Angel]].

==Callsign==

Chen-tao's callsign was given by [[Maclean Rouble]] shortly after a trip to the hair cutter; as he walked in the [[Spacesim Office]] Maclean pointed out how he looked like a certain character in Stargate: SG1 named Jonas Quinn. Jonas is now Chen-tao's callsign. His [[Catclan]] name was, for an obscure reason, Spartakat. He recently changed it to Stargakat, for his obsession of anything Stargate: Atlantis and to a lesser degree SG1 and Universe.

Website

2010-04-17T19:42:45Z

GrimKaiker:

Located at [http://www.spacesim.org www.spacesim.org], the '''Spacesim website''' is where Spacesim broadcasts its news and announcements to the rest of the world. It is also linked to the Lisgar webpage and the [[forum]].

Designed by [[Ram Ananth]], the website fell in to disrepair because the admin password was forgotten and it vanished from Sim memory. It is currently under the care of[[Ben Paul]].

The website is maintained on the same server as the lisgar.ca and lisgar.net websites, which is monitored by [[Daniel Kekez]].

==Former Webmasters==
*[[Nevin Hotson]]
*[[Stefan De Young]]

Orbit

2010-04-17T19:39:49Z

GrimKaiker: /* Simulation Error Activation Utility */

'''Orbit''' is a package of software developed by [[Admiral]] [[Dr. J. Magwood]] for use by the [[OCESS]] to simulate the workings of the [[habitat]]. It includes several components. The current version is Orbit5S, with many more changes planned for oncoming [[mission]]s.

==Components==

===Navigation Software===
[[Image:docking2.JPG|frame|right|150px|Screen shot of the navigation software. Version 5R]]
This part of the software is used by the [[pilot]] to navigate within the solar system. For the sake of simplification, for both the software and piloting techniques, the universe is simulated as a two dimensional plane with most objects being perfect circles or a cluster of such. However, the program is based on real astronomical physics and simulates many functions of a real spaceship. It has received a major overhaul in 2006-07 to add the effects of radiation, atmosphere and fuel.

===EECOM===
{{main|EECOM}}
The EECOM software monitor the environmental data for the habitat, and to controls most life support related operations as venting or pressurizing modules, scrubbing carbon dioxide, or adding oxygen. The Mission Control and the Habitat have two different variations of the same software, but all the controls are carried out from the habitat unless an emergency(beta) should arise.

===Power Grid===
{{main|Power Grid}}
The Power Grid Software was first added to the collection in 2006-07 for Coronis. The Power Grid software monitors reactor temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also allows the [[Chief Engineer]] to control the activation of, amongst others, the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

===Simulation Error Activation Utility===

This is an extension of the software used by the [[simulators]] to simulate possible system failures. Once a system failure is activated, the Astronauts then have to perform a series of repair actions before the simulator would then deactivate the system failure.

===Other Minor Components===

=====AUXCOM=====
{{main|AUXCOM}}

=====Telemetry Display Utility=====
=====Orbit Transfer Calculator=====
=====Telemetry Echoing Utility=====
=====Telemetry Monitoring Utility=====
=====Oxygen Supply Calculator=====
=====Radiation Level Display=====

==History and Versions==

[[Category:Software]]

Orbit

2010-04-17T19:37:30Z

GrimKaiker: /* Simulation Error Activation Utility */

'''Orbit''' is a package of software developed by [[Admiral]] [[Dr. J. Magwood]] for use by the [[OCESS]] to simulate the workings of the [[habitat]]. It includes several components. The current version is Orbit5S, with many more changes planned for oncoming [[mission]]s.

==Components==

===Navigation Software===
[[Image:docking2.JPG|frame|right|150px|Screen shot of the navigation software. Version 5R]]
This part of the software is used by the [[pilot]] to navigate within the solar system. For the sake of simplification, for both the software and piloting techniques, the universe is simulated as a two dimensional plane with most objects being perfect circles or a cluster of such. However, the program is based on real astronomical physics and simulates many functions of a real spaceship. It has received a major overhaul in 2006-07 to add the effects of radiation, atmosphere and fuel.

===EECOM===
{{main|EECOM}}
The EECOM software monitor the environmental data for the habitat, and to controls most life support related operations as venting or pressurizing modules, scrubbing carbon dioxide, or adding oxygen. The Mission Control and the Habitat have two different variations of the same software, but all the controls are carried out from the habitat unless an emergency(beta) should arise.

===Power Grid===
{{main|Power Grid}}
The Power Grid Software was first added to the collection in 2006-07 for Coronis. The Power Grid software monitors reactor temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also allows the [[Chief Engineer]] to control the activation of, amongst others, the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

===Simulation Error Activation Utility===

This is an extension of the software used by the [[simulators]] to simulate various possible system failures. Once a system failure is activated, then the Astronauts have to perform a series of repair actions before the simulator would then deactivate the system failure.

===Other Minor Components===

=====AUXCOM=====
{{main|AUXCOM}}

=====Telemetry Display Utility=====
=====Orbit Transfer Calculator=====
=====Telemetry Echoing Utility=====
=====Telemetry Monitoring Utility=====
=====Oxygen Supply Calculator=====
=====Radiation Level Display=====

==History and Versions==

[[Category:Software]]

Power Grid

2010-04-17T19:35:35Z

GrimKaiker:

[[Image:ENG software.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Engineering software]] 
The term '''Engineering''' could either refer to the '''Power Grid Software''' or the person who monitors that software, either aboard the [[Habitat]] or in [[Mission Control]].

The Power Grid Software is one of the simulation programs used by the [[OCESS]]. It was first used in [[2006-07]] for [[Coronis]]. The Power Grid software monitors [[Energy Generation|reactor]] temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also controls the current of electricity generated from the power sources and the activation of the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

{{Expandarticle}}
[[Category:Engineering Systems]]
[[Category:Software]]
[[Category:Mission-Specific]]

Orbit

2010-04-17T19:31:40Z

GrimKaiker: /* EECOM */

'''Orbit''' is a package of software developed by [[Admiral]] [[Dr. J. Magwood]] for use by the [[OCESS]] to simulate the workings of the [[habitat]]. It includes several components. The current version is Orbit5S, with many more changes planned for oncoming [[mission]]s.

==Components==

===Navigation Software===
[[Image:docking2.JPG|frame|right|150px|Screen shot of the navigation software. Version 5R]]
This part of the software is used by the [[pilot]] to navigate within the solar system. For the sake of simplification, for both the software and piloting techniques, the universe is simulated as a two dimensional plane with most objects being perfect circles or a cluster of such. However, the program is based on real astronomical physics and simulates many functions of a real spaceship. It has received a major overhaul in 2006-07 to add the effects of radiation, atmosphere and fuel.

===EECOM===
{{main|EECOM}}
The EECOM software monitor the environmental data for the habitat, and to controls most life support related operations as venting or pressurizing modules, scrubbing carbon dioxide, or adding oxygen. The Mission Control and the Habitat have two different variations of the same software, but all the controls are carried out from the habitat unless an emergency(beta) should arise.

===Power Grid===
{{main|Power Grid}}
The Power Grid Software was first added to the collection in 2006-07 for Coronis. The Power Grid software monitors reactor temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also allows the [[Chief Engineer]] to control the activation of, amongst others, the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

===Simulation Error Activation Utility===

This is the extension of the software used by the [[simulators]] to simulate various possible system failures. Once a system failure is activated, then the Astronauts have to perform a series of repair actions before the simulator would then deactivate the system failure.

===Other Minor Components===

=====AUXCOM=====
{{main|AUXCOM}}

=====Telemetry Display Utility=====
=====Orbit Transfer Calculator=====
=====Telemetry Echoing Utility=====
=====Telemetry Monitoring Utility=====
=====Oxygen Supply Calculator=====
=====Radiation Level Display=====

==History and Versions==

[[Category:Software]]

Orbit

2010-04-17T19:30:13Z

GrimKaiker:

'''Orbit''' is a package of software developed by [[Admiral]] [[Dr. J. Magwood]] for use by the [[OCESS]] to simulate the workings of the [[habitat]]. It includes several components. The current version is Orbit5S, with many more changes planned for oncoming [[mission]]s.

==Components==

===Navigation Software===
[[Image:docking2.JPG|frame|right|150px|Screen shot of the navigation software. Version 5R]]
This part of the software is used by the [[pilot]] to navigate within the solar system. For the sake of simplification, for both the software and piloting techniques, the universe is simulated as a two dimensional plane with most objects being perfect circles or a cluster of such. However, the program is based on real astronomical physics and simulates many functions of a real spaceship. It has received a major overhaul in 2006-07 to add the effects of radiation, atmosphere and fuel.

===EECOM===
{{main|EECOM}}
The EECOM software monitor the environmental data for the habitat, and to controls most life support related operations as venting or pressurizing modules, scrubbing carbon dioxide, or adding oxygen. The Mission Control and the Habitat have two different extensions of the same software, but all the controls are carried out from the habitat unless emergence (beta) should arise.

===Power Grid===
{{main|Power Grid}}
The Power Grid Software was first added to the collection in 2006-07 for Coronis. The Power Grid software monitors reactor temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also allows the [[Chief Engineer]] to control the activation of, amongst others, the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

===Simulation Error Activation Utility===

This is the extension of the software used by the [[simulators]] to simulate various possible system failures. Once a system failure is activated, then the Astronauts have to perform a series of repair actions before the simulator would then deactivate the system failure.

===Other Minor Components===

=====AUXCOM=====
{{main|AUXCOM}}

=====Telemetry Display Utility=====
=====Orbit Transfer Calculator=====
=====Telemetry Echoing Utility=====
=====Telemetry Monitoring Utility=====
=====Oxygen Supply Calculator=====
=====Radiation Level Display=====

==History and Versions==

[[Category:Software]]

Orbit

2010-04-17T19:28:12Z

GrimKaiker:

'''Orbit''' is a package of software developed by [[Admiral]] [[Dr. J. Magwood]] for use by the [[OCESS]] to simulate the workings of the [[habitat]]. It includes several components. The current version is Orbit5S, with many more changes planned for oncoming [[mission]]s.

==Components==

===Navigation Software===
[[Image:docking2.JPG|frame|right|150px|Screen shot of the navigation software. Version 5R]]
This part of the software is used by the [[pilot]] to navigate within the solar system. For the sack of simplification, both of the software and of the piloting techniques, the universe is simulated as a two dimensional plane with most objects being perfect circles or a cluster of such. However, the program is based on real astronomical physics and simulates many functions of a real spaceship. It has received a major overhaul in 2006-07 to add the effects of radiation, atmosphere and fuel.

===EECOM===
{{main|EECOM}}
The EECOM software monitor the environmental data for the habitat, and to controls most life support related operations as venting or pressurizing modules, scrubbing carbon dioxide, or adding oxygen. The Mission Control and the Habitat have two different extensions of the same software, but all the controls are carried out from the habitat unless emergence (beta) should arise.

===Power Grid===
{{main|Power Grid}}
The Power Grid Software was first added to the collection in 2006-07 for Coronis. The Power Grid software monitors reactor temperature and the status of various onboard circuits and modules. It also allows the [[Chief Engineer]] to control the activation of, amongst others, the radiation shielding, the generator itself, the propulsion systems and the communication systems.

===Simulation Error Activation Utility===

This is the extension of the software used by the [[simulators]] to simulate various possible system failures. Once a system failure is activated, then the Astronauts have to perform a series of repair actions before the simulator would then deactivate the system failure.

===Other Minor Components===

=====AUXCOM=====
{{main|AUXCOM}}

=====Telemetry Display Utility=====
=====Orbit Transfer Calculator=====
=====Telemetry Echoing Utility=====
=====Telemetry Monitoring Utility=====
=====Oxygen Supply Calculator=====
=====Radiation Level Display=====

==History and Versions==

[[Category:Software]]

2010 Proposal to Change the Hierarchy

2010-04-15T03:49:21Z

GrimKaiker:

The '''2010 Proposal to Change the Hierarchy''' was designed by a coalition of members in order to replace the confusing and redundant hierarchy in place in [[2009-10]]. On April 12, 2010, everyone in the [[Spacesim Office]] who was not willing to work on hierarchy was ordered out for a period of 20 minutes during which [[Samuel Baltz]], [[Ben Paul]], [[Matthew Pelletier]], [[Arrian Amir-Rafiei]], and [[Bryce Storey]] drafted a new [[Spacesim]] hierarchy. For a period of about a week following April 12, Samuel Baltz bothered every member and alumnus he could find for their opinion on the proposal, and found that the coalition's efforts were almost uniformly approved of.

==New Hierarchy==
The proposal would have the hierarchy arranged under the following rank categories: 
1. Teacher Advisor 
2. Commander 
3. SubCommander 
4. Lieutenant 
5. SubLieutenant 

[[Image:Spacesim Proposed Hierarchy.jpg|The 2010 Proposed Hierarchy in a Crooked Nutshell]]

==Explanation of the Ranks==
{{NPOV}}
1. The Teacher Advisor position will remain unchanged. This person has absolute power and veto over everything. 
2. '''Commander''': These two will check each others' power to ensure that no one person will be making decisions alone. They do not have complete authority over any one area of the club; rather, they are labelled "Mission" and "Education" as job descriptions. Commander positions will preferentially go to grade twelves, and the holders are executives. 
3. '''SubCommander''': Subcommander positions will preferentially go to grade elevens or twelves, and the holders are executives. 
4. '''Lieutenant''': These positions will preferentially go to grade elevens, and the holders are executives. 
5. '''SubLieutenant''': SubLieutenants do not count as executives, unlike every other category. These positions are mainly cleaning and organizing and should preferentially go to grade tens, or to responsible grade nines partway through the year. 

==Explanation of the Roles==
{{NPOV}}
'''Mission Commander''': the same as in the [[2009-10]] Hierarchy; this person will serve as Habitat Commander on the mission and will be in charge of determining everything that will happen on the mission.

'''Education Commander''': this person mainly does training for, schedules, and is in charge of EEPs and Planetariums.

'''Deputy Mission Commander''': the same as Subcommander in the current hierarchy; they will serve as Mission-Specific Lt. Cmdr. This person is basically a general aide to the Mission Commander.

'''External Affairs SubCommander''': The PR Director, back from the dead. This person will, in consultation with both Commanders and the Teacher Advisor, act as board liasion, get funding for spacesim, and, if the education commander wishes, will contact elementary schools for EEPs and Planetariums.

'''EEPs SubCommander''': This person will be the backup for EEPs. They will know the EEPs procedures inside and out, will go to all of the EEPs with the Education Commander, and will be ready in case the Education Commander is deathly ill and cannot make it to a scheduled EEPs. Ideally they will also be able to do Planetariums.

'''Planetarium SubCommander''': The same as EEPs but for Planetariums.

'''Director of Web and Archives''': Webmaster for short, this is the same as the current position in the hierarchy. This person is in charge of all of Spacesim's ancient documents, and in charge of maintaining and adding to the website. The Wikimaster answers directly to the Webmaster.

'''Tech Director''': The same as Engineering Commander in the current hierarchy, this member is listed basically as recognition that they know a lot about electronics. They will tell you why you shouldn't plug just any card straight into a computer.

'''Office Director''': Also back from the dead, this position is for cleaning and organizing the office. The holder of this position does not have the full authority to throw people out of the office, but will count as a senior member for the purposes of staying in the office. They also get to be alone in the office during designated cleaning periods (suggested: half an hour after school on Fridays when everyone is going to the work session anyways).

'''Quartermaster''': This member is in charge of cleaning and organizing the storage module.

'''Wikimaster''': This member is in charge of cleaning and organizing this website, the Spacesim Wiki.

==Criticism==
The reaction to this proposal was overwhelmingly positive, with the following concerns raised:
*Perhaps too many positions to fill every year
*EEPs SubCommander and Planetarium SubCommander are redundant ranks
The proposal has yet to be brough up before Spacesim as a whole. This is scheduled to occur at the lunch meeting on April 16, 2010.

Talk:Mission

2010-03-28T17:41:55Z

GrimKaiker: /* Redundancy */

==New Table==
Max, this is so beautiful it almost made me cry. [[User:Stefanido|Stefanido]] 18:10, 10 March 2010 (EST)
*It was no problem. I'm now about to divide it for easy parsing into four "eras" - pre-Hawking, Hawking, Hawking II, and Hawking III. [[User:Max.Jeffcott|Max.Jeffcott]] 22:37, 10 March 2010 (EST)
:What Stefan said. ---[[user:Q-Cumber|Q-Cumber]] 12:12, 11 March 2010 (EST)

==Redundancy==
Now that this page exists doesn't this make the 'Category:History' page redunant? It looks better and provides the same information in a better format. [[User:GrimKaiker|GrimKaiker]] 13:06, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:[[:Category:History]] is a list of all "year" pages. It is important to categorize articles that we might find them more easily. In addition Mission is not the first article you'd look at to find information on a particular year. [[User:Stefanido|-- Stefanido]] 13:17, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::But all of the year pages are identical to the mission pages. Considering the content in each article, [[:Mission]],[[:Category:History]], and [[:Sim History]] are synonymous. Of the three pages the [[:Mission]] page is the most useful. If not a deletion, shouldn't their be a merge between the pages or a changing of titles so that [[:Mission]] is a subcategory of the [[:Sim History]] page. Also on the same note, why does clicking the 'Sim History' link on the main page take me to [[:Category:History]] instead of [[:Sim History]]?[[User:GrimKaiker|Grim]] 13:41, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::The Mission is an integral part of the year, but it is not the year by itself. Year pages will include important events, EEP details, club firsts, task forces, the names of holders of important positions, and the yearbook picture. Mission pages hold the Mission patch, the names of the commanders of the mission, events during the mission, and the mission pages are tied to the Mission debrief pages. In no way are Mission Pages and Year Pages synonymous. As for the [[Main Page]], that's totally my bad. [[User:Stefanido|-- Stefanido]] 13:38, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::: Well when you say 'Year pages will' that makes more sense. Because looking at the pages 'now' they hold the same content. In the future I guess there would be a discrepancy if merged. [[User:GrimKaiker|Grim]] 13:41, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Mission

2010-03-28T17:31:02Z

GrimKaiker: /* Redundancy */

Talk:Mission

2010-03-28T17:06:31Z

GrimKaiker: /* New Table */